There *was* such a flow chart at one point, or an equivalent of one (if it has this, go to B, if not, go to C; and in the end you'd end up with "can use it" or "can't"). The problem was that it was confusing and rarely ever used.
Thus was my impetus to re-write the tags so that they would be self-defining. When incorrectly used they make it clear as such. It seems to have been having some small effect, I've been told, but it's hard to know for sure.
The problem of course is that there is not an easy way to write a "blanket" tag -- I'm not at all sure how {{fairuse}} itself should be rewritten, but it probably ought to be.
Some of what you're suggesting is currently on WP:FU, which was recently rewritten.
One thought I honestly had on this was to write a little Wikibook on fair use and copyright law -- it wouldn't be that hard to write a basic primer that you could refer all people who just don't seem to get it to. But I haven't had the time.
(And honestly, "reform" gets me down -- it is always met with strong objections, some good and some less so, from people who do and do not understand, and people who let the perfect get in the way of the good. And a project where there is little authority and an emphasis on consensus, it's hard to be successful at instituting big changes. But this is hardly unique to just this little effort, which has been considerably smoother than many others I'm sure. And, perhaps most fortunately, there are others willing to take on the effort as well, which really does make a huge difference on an individual level!)
FF
On 9/22/05, MacGyverMagic/Mgm macgyvermagic@gmail.com wrote:
I was actually thinking to create a flowchart for people to easily determine the copyright status of images, but lacking the legal know-how, I haven't done it.
Not only would such an aid in determining image status be helpful to people who are new to legal issues on this, it could also be used as an argument to not allow images that don't get through this process for being a copyright infringement or faulty fair use claim.
We should also have a page saying how we should only have limited fair use images on articles (and not on userpages) where there's no other alternatives or 1 such image in an article when it explains a lot (again, if there's no other choice).
--Mgm
On 9/23/05, Tony Sidaway f.crdfa@gmail.com wrote:
On 9/22/05, Daniel Mayer maveric149@yahoo.com wrote:
I agree completely. Last time I checked, the deletion policy is very
much
so biased toward keeping everything by requiring a supermajority to delete. It should be the other way around whenever a fair use claim is made.
Remember that a fair use claim would come under the Copyright policy,
which
being a key policy takes precedence over the deletion policy.
In short, if someone makes a fair use claim they should need a consensus
to
support it if anything.
Under deletion policy, the rule is "if in doubt, don't delete." The copyright policy should adopt the reverse approach. Wikipedia is known for the quality of its product. Let's not ever risk it being known as a purloiner of other people's hard work. _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@Wikipedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
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