Dan Rosenthal wrote:
[irritating top-posting fixed]
On 5/3/06, Gallagher Mark George m.g.gallagher@student.canberra.edu.au wrote:
The question of whether an article establishes notability is not one that can, or should, be answered by a single admin working very very fast to delete as much stuff as quickly as possible. Unfortunately there are a few admins who seem to think "well, it's tagged for speedy, who am I to judge? That would be elitist." Oh, and let's not forget the non-admin CVUers who encourage that view ...
Uh, I'm one of said non-admin CVU-ers, and I don't encourage that view. On the other hand, I could CSD a half dozen highly notable subjects on wikipedia simply because the articles make no assertion of the notablity. The fact is, that the vast majority of speedy deletions are shite articles, either vandalism/vanity, myspace, external redirects, etc. Are you saying those shouldn't be speedied? We all know that AfD is totally free from vote-stacking and any other forum of corruption. *cough*I
Nothing wrong with non-admins doing RC/newpage/etc. patrol; I did it myself for ages before adminship was thrust upon me. Being a CVU member, eh, well, nobody's perfect.
You can't take the half the sentence in isolation. I was referring specifically to "non-admin CVUers who encourage [the view that anything tagged for speedy *must* be deleted]". A non-admin CVUer who doesn't encourage that view is, therefore, beyond my scope.
As for "the fact is ..." umm, yes ... I *know*, quite well, what the articles that usually crop up in CAT:CSD look like. But thanks for the tip anyway. I speedy dozens of articles every time I go RC patrolling or (more often) clearing out CSD or (surprisingly) reading the latest list of AfD nominations ... and despite this, there's still several articles that nobody in their right mind would want to speedy, but someone's tagged them anyway. Oh, and often you get someone with "CVU member" proudly displayed on their userpage complaining that you've disrupted their hard work by refusing to delete someone else's!