On 4/23/06, geni geniice@gmail.com wrote:
On 4/23/06, jayjg jayjg99@gmail.com wrote:
On 4/23/06, Conrad Dunkerson conrad.dunkerson@worldnet.att.net wrote:
- Steve Bennett wrote:
Funnily enough, my definition works here as well. Someone whose judgment is being questioned will accuse their reverter of wheel warring. Someone who made a mistake won't.
In other words: If the person you reverted accuses you of wheel warring, then you wheel warred.
I almost agree, but in some cases that person might still be operating under mistaken assumptions. Say they found some evidence which suggested that a particular user was a sockpuppet of a blocked user and placed a block on the 'sockpuppet' as a result. However, the second admin then uncovered proof that the person wasn't a sockpuppet and unblocked. The first admin might well accuse the second of 'wheel warring' and reblock, but only because of a failure of communication. The second admin wasn't 'opposing the judgement' of the first, they were just working off a different set of facts. The second admin shouldn't have to discuss the matter before taking an action they know to be correct... though it would be a good idea to send the first admin a note to fill them in on the details.
No, what the second admin should do is discuss the case with the first admin, rather than unblocking. Maybe the first admin has evidence that the second admin is unaware of. If the second admin has conclusive evidence, then the first admin will undoubtedly unblock. If not, then there is a dispute, and the second admin should not wheel war. In any event, admins should not act under the bad faith supposition that *they know better*; that is what starts the wheel war.
Jay.
In the mean time an inocent user may stay blocked. Not good. Remeber the first admin was also sure enough that they knew best in order to block.
A brief block is not the end of the world. If it drags on for a lengthy period then it's something else. And yes, the first admin executed their best judgement when making the block; that's what admins are supposed to do. If a second admin disagrees with that judgement, then they need to take it up with the first admin, rather than initiate a wheel war with them.
Jay.