Well, I for one am looking at the Subject line, which is "Jayjg is AWOL" and while I agree that transparency vs. potential harm and other sub-topics which naturally cascade from this are still on topic, David's choice of approach is a different topic, and IMO any discussion of it here is unlikely to be beneficial to resolving the Jayjg and related issues, but will rather send us off, like little ADD sufferers, into totally unrelated polemics and responses, making it that much less likely that the initial questions will be resolved at all, due to being lost in the white noise caused by this distraction. In short, if you want to bitch at David, do so in private email. If you want to discuss language and civility on this email list, start another thread.
Armed Blowfish wrote:
On 28/08/07, Puppy puppy@killerchihuahua.com wrote:
I note you are ignoring my plea to keep this thread on-topic. You have moved your focus from David's post to my plea to not muddy the waters by adding a sub-topic about terminology and phrasing which you find objectionable. Not sure that's an improvement.
Hello Puppy! : ) What do you believe the topic is?
Allow me to copyedit David's email, if it will help:
"Perhaps it would be better if you accepted that your personal curiosity cannot be satisfied on this issue. There are sometimes private issues which must be considered, but would cause more harm than good to publicize. I am sure that once the investigation is complete, we will all be informed of the findings, sans any details which are of a delicate or potentially harmful nature. I am certain you will understand, and that you merely did not consider the larger issues."
Better? Longer, I'll grant.. but it says the exact same damn thing, except for some flattery (I'm not the least bit "certain" he'll get it.) Only it wouldn't have gotten to the point so well, and probably would have been lost in the thread. David's has the advantage of shock value, which commands attention.
Marc Riddell wrote:
on 8/28/07 9:10 AM, Puppy at puppy@KillerChihuahua.com wrote:
Legitimate requests are not attacks, regardless of how they are phrased. And criticizing terminology is expanding the issue needlessly. Shall we /not/ see how many sub-issues we can drag into this thread? Just a thought, but stay on topic.
OK, "go away" may be a "legitimate request" (actually, it reads like an order); but what do you call "you trolling fuckwit"?
Marc Riddell
Daniel R. Tobias wrote:
On 27 Aug 2007 at 19:27:25 +0100, "David Gerard" dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
Go away, you trolling fuckwit.
There's no "No Personal Attacks" policy on this list, apparently.
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