Kevin, you have my full sympathy. I'm still only semi-returned after a making a similar decision about having a wiki-vacation last year.
You've hit the nail exactly on the head when you wrote "We exist to be an encyclopedia not a bastion of freedom of speech. We are here to provide information NOT to make political statements about censorship."
Unfortunately, there are far too many individuals here who seem to think otherwise, and this is very disruptive.
That picture should definitely go. It is not the explicit stuff that the autofellatio picture was, buit its purpose is still to shock in the name of freedom of speech more than to inform.
Whatever happened to that bowderliasing project that was promised in the wake of the autofellatio picture? That seems to have dioed a quiet death.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Rector" krector@Compco.com To: "English Wikipedia" wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Subject: [WikiEN-l] Nude Kate Winslet Picture Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 17:20:07 -0500
Please see the discussion on [[Image:KateWinsletTitanic.jpg]] at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Images_and_media_for_deletion#Apr il_11.
Here's my reply to the whole deal:
Delete -- For the same reason as Nunh-huh and DreamGuy. This adds nothing to the article except controversy. So the only reason to keep it in the article is to reduce WikiLove, and to increase Wikistress. I hate all these stupid debates about nudity. We exists to be an encyclopedia not a bastion of freedom of speech. We are here to provide information NOT to make political statements about censorship. Having nude and/or sexually explicit pictures in our encyclopedia upsets enough people that it detracts significantly from the task of making an encylopedia and that is reason enough to delete this picture (and others like it). There is a definite agenda by the nude-picture-pushers here and it has nothing to do with creating an NPOV encyclopedia. Kevin Rector (talk) 22:04, Apr 12, 2005 (UTC)
Now to you the mailing list:
I've tried to stay out of the fray with all the nude/porn picture debates that have gone on, but I've come to the realization that people are searching out nude pictures to put in the 'pedia. They are looking to stir up trouble, mostly to make a point.
The fact that the Wikipedia "community" won't resolve these problems, and the fact that the community so proudly proclaims that "Wikipedia is not censored" while ignoring the fact that "Wikipedia is quite dysfunctional" has made me realize that I need to re-evaluate if this is a project that I want to be a part of.
Plus the politics and partisanship are really annoying.
I'm going on WikiVacation - I may or may not return.
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