Well, there is something in the original proposal that makes sense to me -- devoting specific attention to long-term facilitation of discussion and resolution of difficult issues. There is something about wiki-time (to borrow a term) that discourages measured discussion over time - if you miss the flashpoint discussion that sets a precedent, people may have moved on and you'll have to restart the original interest again.
I think the list-vs-wiki distinction is a red herring -- I'd like to see list-to-wiki synchronization so that we never have to have that discussion again -- so to keep things simple, let's imagine what this would look like on-wiki.
Sam had a good idea in this direction : [[Wikipedia:Community Facilitation]] . It's about something more specific than dispute resolution in general, but may be a useful part of what you have in mind, steve. And the idea would be both to discuss [potentially long-term] facilitation, help people get better at it, and practice it in the context of specific issues.
Sj
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 4:01 AM, stevertigo stvrtg@gmail.com wrote:
I'm proposing that we start a resolution-l mailing list.
Yes, I know we talked about it a month ago, to the tune of about 100 posts, and it seemed that it wasn't going anywhere. But that was just appearances. The reality is that the support was substantial, the opposition was sub-articulate, and whatever substantive criticism there was was largely based in some assumed misconceptions about its scope (Thomas).
The real truth is that we have been waiting for Cary to fulfill one of his many duties and create the list. That having failed, we have been waiting on Cary to tell us why he has not. That also having failed, we instead have just been waiting a month for Cary to say anything at all. And he recently did, though there was little substance in it, other than a threat to close the bug request. Which in fact, he just did close as WONTFIX: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19414 . I'm sure he thinks he's doing the right thing. Still, despite our recent differences, we should welcome Cary's actual participation in our discussion. Thank you Cary, we understand that you were just too busy to give this proper consideration.
Anyway, we were talking about an open list for discussing dispute resolution. Its scope will be broad, and its purpose will be to be helpful. It will discuss particular disputes in general, conceptual, and editorial terms, and facilitate immediate on-wiki dispute resolution processes. It will also discuss dispute resolution concepts in general, wherever that goes.
-Stevertigo Architect of WP:CIVIL, creator of Arbcom, Inventor of those WP:Shortcuts
WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l