james duffy wrote:
On Thu, 2003-05-01 at 09:35, The Cunctator wrote:
We actually did have a big discussion about this and film ended up
being
nixed because of the problem of digital videa replacing actual film
as the
medium for "films". Thus, "movie".
If that is the case, then surely 'movie', a word linked with the silent world of moving pictures, should be replaced on wiki by 'talkie'.
And if the Cunctator's assertion is correct, then we need to change it. Non-Americans do not generally use the word 'movie'. It is a word only occasionally used outside the US and usually applied to heavily Americanised Hollywood-ised blockbusters; Bruce Willis saves the world, gets the girl and wisecracks his way to the conclusion, with the promise of 5 sequels and billions of dollars of merchandising to come. In fact 'movie' is used internationally in relation to 'film' the way 'fast food' is used in relation to 'cuisine'. Stuff by Quentin Tarantino is often described as 'film' whereas something with Arnie, Sly or that genre is invariably a 'movie'. And anyone ever heard of a 'movie noir'?
In which case a disambiguator of '(movie)' is totally appropriate for the works of which you're contemptuous, eh? In fact, people could tell from the use of '(film)' vs '(movie)' in the article title whether it's one that you approve of, and thus know how to evaluate the worthiness of the article before reading it.
But seriously, there are a hundred ways that I could look down my nose at, say, Ireland and the Irish, yet you don't see me spewing those out at every opportunity. So cool it with the cultural superiority guff - nobody is actually interested in your opinion on what kind of material they should admire.
Of course, you're welcome to try to convince people to disambiguate with '(film)', but let me give you a hint - they'll be a lot easier to convince if you treat them with respect.
Stan