On 6/5/06, Steve Bennett stevagewp@gmail.com wrote:
On 6/5/06, Anthony DiPierro wikilegal@inbox.org wrote:
You could always put "See also: [[:Category:The Beatles]]" (I think that's the syntax) in the description for [[Category:British rock bands]].
That's probably not bad. The page would have a basic structure like:
Description Related categories <-- new Subcategories Articles in this category
People *want* to put "related categories", but they break the category system if they make them subcats. We need to channel that desire.
Steve
While playing around with perl and [[Category:Airports]] last night I noticed an instance of what will probably be another common one: [[Category:Lists of airports]] is a subcategory. There are probably enough instances of that sort of thing that we would have to make an exception (in the interest of consensus), but the cleaner solution would be to go with something like the related categories idea above.
I should also note that [[Category:Airports]] itself is treated like a theme for articles, but the subcategories are treated like attributes. (Actually, now that I look at it directly on Wikipedia I see "Airport lounges" and "Airport operators" are also subcategories. I didn't notice that in my original, very fast, skim of the tree, but looking back it *was* there).
If anyone wants to take a look at my "tree" for airports, or my perl script (which is really simplistic), let me know where I can upload it. To run it you need to download and import two mysql database files, enwiki-20060518-categorylinks.sql (290 megs) and enwiki-20060518-page.sql (354 megs). The "tree" looks like this:
Airports_by_country *Airports_in_Afghanistan *#Bagram_Air_Base *#Kabul_International_Airport *Airports_in_Albania *#Rinas_Mother_Teresa_Airport [...] *Airports_in_Australia **Royal_Australian_Air_Force_bases ***Former_RAAF_Bases ***#RAAF_Station_Archerfield ***#RAAF_Station_Bairnsdale ***#RAAF_Base_Rathmines ***#RAAF_Station_Tocumwal **#RAAF_Base_Amberley **#RAAF_Bare_Bases
Are air force bases airports? I'd say so.
I also tried making a tree for [[Category:Buildings and structures]] (a "parent" of airports). That one grew quite messy, and my script bailed at 10 levels of recursion, so I haven't really analysed it much. I'll try turning it up to 20 or 25 and see what happens.
Anthony