On 7/5/05, JAY JG jayjg@hotmail.com wrote:
From: Skyring skyring@gmail.com
On 7/5/05, JAY JG jayjg@hotmail.com wrote:
From: "Nathan J. Yoder" njyoder@energon.org
Well, that's not really accurate, but most blocked users can no
longer
us a
different Userid to avoid the block, precisely because Wikipedia
blocks
the
IP address when attempts are made to do this. That wasn't the case
before
the IP blocker was added.
You're not listening at all. I was editing only with my User:Njyoder account, not a sock puppet nor logged out. If you block a username, it has _always_ been the case that that username can't edit.
Right. This feature stops sockpuppet editing (at least for fixed IP addresses).
No it doesn't. The IP is already blocked. The IP address CANNOT edit.
No, as far as I know IPs are not immediately blocked, only userids.
On checking, I see that this is so. Fair enough.
Nevertheless, as NYJ noted:
"1. Admin blocks User:foo. 2. User:foo logs in as User:foo. 3. User:foo hits 'edit page.' 4. User:foo block is renewed for another 24 hours."
You don't seem to be addressing this point.
Because the system can't tell whether you were trying to get around the block or simply doing something odd with no intent of actually editing
when
you hit the "edit" button. What, again, was the net effect of this?
Your
valid block was extended for a few more hours?
That's the point. You have just conceded that even if an editor was "simply doing something odd with no intent of actually editing" the block is extended for another 24 hours. Or a week or a month or whatever.
I think that this is a bug. What do you think?
I think the likelihood of a true positive is vastly greated than that of a false positive, regardless of the many protestations of innocence on the part of those who get blocked by this. I also think it's easy enough to get an admin to reverse the block if you have a reasonable story as to how it happened.
So this bug doesn't stop users from editing, because they are already blocked, and it doesn't work anyway because all the editor has to say is "my cat ran over the keyboard", regardless of whether he intended to attempt to edit or not.
I think that this is a bug. What do you think?