In a message dated 6/25/2007 3:58:37 PM Central Daylight Time, thomas.dalton@gmail.com writes:
Information is neither "in-universe" or "out-of-universe", it's just a collection of facts. It's the presentation of that information which is in- or out-of-universe, any in-universe content can be re-written out-of-universe (although a large amount of in-universe content is often a clue that the article needs trimming, so I'm not suggesting blindly rewriting articles). I think what you're trying to say is that there should be non-primary reliable sources in order for something to be notable, which is probably a good rule of thumb.
These sources cover "real world" information, like sales figures, critical response, merchandise, and so on. It's called "out-of-universe information" as a general grouping, since it's a common use of the term. "Out-of-universe perspective" presents a balance of in-universe and out-of-universe material from the perspective of the real world; what you mentioned. I've seen both terms used commonly across Wikipedia. WAF uses the term "out-of-universe information" as well. This wording is noted in the rewrite.
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