Tony,
Fair point in that I used the words wrongly
However, I feel that my words have been taken out of context. I was responding to a admin who was claiming that the word notable should not be used in AfD discussions and he would speedy keep any votes in which the word was used.
My point was, and remains, that notability is a central concept in AfD discussions as much as verifiability. If a user wishes to assert that the article is worthy of an A7 speedy delete on the grounds that it isn't notable, it should be open for him or her to do so.
I feel that my words have been taken out of context in this thread.
On 9/16/05, Tony Sidaway minorityreport@bluebottle.com wrote:
Keith Old writes:
"After all, one of the reasons for Speedy Deletion is that an article has not established notability of the subject."
No. Lots of our articles don't *establish* notability, and they're not speediable at all. The A7 CSD is for articles that don't *assert* notability. If an article contains a (reasonably credible) claim of notability, that is enough to take it out of the category. The criterion is somewhat elastic, but there is apparently some ongoing work to tighten it, by providing illustrative examples or otherwise. So if you write an article "Bobby Moore, a player for West Ham, was the captain of the 1966 World Cup winning England football team", it stop far short of establishing notability (no references) but it does undeniably *assert* notability.
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