Rick wrote:
Please tell me how to improve [[Tsesungunille]], an article about a place that the original author made up.
This one fails the 'confirmability' test anyway, so it isn't a good example.
Or [[Old Granny Sweat Weed ]] ... Or [[Disappearing hoagies]] ... Or [[Abek]] ... Or [[The mode of production of free software ]],
As far as I can tell, these all fail the 'confirmability' test, and so they aren't at issue in the current discussion.
Remember, the debate is primarily between two factions (though of course there are surely many subtle positions within these two factions). And neither faction is saying that nothing can ever ever ever be deleted no matter what.
Confirmability is an important safeguard accepted by most or all completionists. Hand-entry (as opposed to mass import) is an important safeguard accepted by most or all completionists.
Straw man examples don't really help us to clarify the discussion.
Q. "Should I mass-import 20,000,000 census entries then?" A. "Mass-importing is a different issue, which short circuits an important safeguard against trivia"
Q. "What about things that aren't confirmable at all?" A. "Delete them. That's not what we're talking about."
Now, I think that *even after* we remove those two categories from the discussion, we *still* have legitimate arguments on both side. I'm firmly in the completionist camp rather than deletionist camp, but I do accept that other views _which don't engage in straw man argument_ have some good points that we should consider.
--Jimbo