On Dec 28, 2008, at 6:08 AM, David Gerard wrote:
NPOV is paramount. NOR and V are good ways to get there.
Though to be fair, we're not even talking about NOR here - we're talking about three words, inserted over three years ago by an editor who wanted to win a content dispute over on [[animal rights]], that sat undiscussed for two years afterwards until they had been in the policy for so long that they were "consensus." Indeed, no discussion of the "no specialist knowledge" clause that I have ever seen has come to a consensus in favor of it.
So basically, we have a phrase that mandates the violation of NPOV on a host of articles, that was inserted without discussion, and that has been controversial in every subsequent discussion. But we keep it, because it's "consensus."
-Phil