On 12/10/05, Mark Gallagher m.g.gallagher@student.canberra.edu.au wrote:
G'day Anthony,
On 12/9/05, geni geniice@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/9/05, Anthony DiPierro wikilegal@inbox.org wrote:
Yes, you've confused what I've said. I think we should add more *objective* criteria to the speedy deletion candidates, not *subjective* ones.
If totaly objective criteria don't turn up much outside maths
I find it hard to believe that we can't come up with objective criteria for articles that everyone agrees should be deleted. Verifiability, for instance, is an objective criterion.
Verifiability is necessary, but not sufficient, for an encyclopaedic article. But not everyone agrees on that (IIRC, you yourself have gone to great --- perhaps even "extreme" --- lengths to show your disagreement).
Well, articles should be on nouns (more specifically, articles should be about the thing which the noun describes). Otherwise you're talking about a dictionary definition. But other than that, yeah, verifiability is pretty much all you need to at least have a redirect (whether or not we should be redirecting things like [[beautiful]] to [[beauty]] is a separate question the answer to which is probably "sometimes", but I don't suggest getting rid of redirects for deletion).
Anyway, I was specifically talking about "articles that everyone agrees should be deleted". "MGM" asked "You haven't addressed my questions on how to deal with crap everyone agrees should be deleted, but is not actually speediable (like obvious band vanity, blatant adverts and the like)." My response was to "make [them] speediable".