Most of those suggestions are good, but I've written some minor critism
--- martin@myreddice.freeserve.co.uk wrote:
Jimbo said: "I, too, object strongly to this practice of creating '/ban' pages as a place to complain about people. It seems likely to escalate a conflict rather than to resolve it."
response copied to [[meta:talk:bans and blocks]], for those who miss the "edit this page" button. I know I do. :-)
Can we, between ourselves, find a better solution than /ban pages? Prior to my (groundbreaking ;-) creation of the first ever /ban page, best practice seemed to edit [[wikipedia:annoying users]], [[wikipedia:vandalism in progress]], [[user talk:USER NAME]], [[wikipedia:village pump]], any and all talk pages for articles that the user in question had edited, various talk pages of interested sysops ("I think it's Fred", "I agree - it's Fred", "It's definitely Fred!", etc), and also to make long posts to the mailing list in which one is either "shocked", "appalled", or (ideally) "shocked and appalled".
Yes, this problem needs to be solved. On a side note, I'm sure Fred is very insulted :)
My desires were:
- Single place for discussion - if I want to know
"Why was Fred banned?", I should be able to go to *one* Wikipedia page, read it, and be enlightened.
- Avoid/discourage redundant discussions
- Ability to refactor away redundancy
- Ability to delete page when a banned user is
reinstated, or when calls for banning subside and the sweet voice of reason prevails
I agree
Alternatives I can think of immediately:
- Do it on the user talk page
wouldn't make a difference.
- Have a different name for the page (eg
/complaints, /problems, ...)
sounds like doublespeak
- Do it on a subpage of [[wikipedia:annoying users]]
(eg [[wikipedia:annoying users/Fred]])
makes most sense, moving away from their userpage. After all, it's *their* page, not ours to conspire against them on. But "annoying" seems a little too strong; how about "contraversial users"?
-Martin "Never met a vandal he didn't like" Harper (aka MyRedDice)
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