on 3/5/08 3:12 AM, David Gerard at dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
On 05/03/2008, Marc Riddell michaeldavid86@comcast.net wrote:
on 3/4/08 7:11 PM, David Gerard at dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
(Hey everyone! There's lots more stuff to write about! See the list at the bottom of [[WP:WIP]] for ideas!)
Eager to change to subject, David? Now, why would that be?
'Cos it's a completely stupid thread, IMO, with exceedingly little relevance to writing an encyclopedia. I don't expect that will actually lessen contributions to it in any way, but I thought it was better to say so than not nevertheless.
Also, I said it as a civility initiative: part of the ongoing effort to make wikien-l less like a sewer, and more like something someone working on the project would actually want to read.
- Runaway pissed-off threads appear to have lessened in number of late.
- Pointing out and enforcing that this is not unblock-l has helped *greatly*.
- Trying to add relevant and IMO interesting thread starters whenever
I spot one (others are most welcomed).
This list should be able to be a useful thing for en:wp. As far as I know Wikback is working quite well in this regard - but I just can't stand working with forums, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. There's a lot of en:wp old hands here who have experience to lend to the project, having too low a signal:noise ratio has already driven off too many. I'd like to reverse that.
David,
Civility is not censorship; it is not what you talk about, but how you say it. As I understand this List, it is for discussing all issues related to the English Wikipedia Project, and the Community that is affected by them; and trust in its leadership should certainly be one of those issues. The Community should be able to openly discuss all of the laundry that belongs to it - both clean and dirty. This way, we may not always like what we hear, but we can always trust that we are hearing it all.
Marc