It seems reasonable that a block should, at the very least, have some basis in community approved guidelines. Pointing to this in the block comment doesn't seem unduly harsh. Mark
--- Rick giantsrick13@yahoo.com wrote:
I object solely on the grounds that it is not the arbcom's responsibility to create policy. And that is what they're doing. Even if I got everything I wanted, I would still object. But let me also say that I disagree with this option, because it's given Guanaco the ability to suddenly go wild and retroactively unblock EVERY SINGLE PERSON from the past whose reason for blocking doesn't match these unapproved criteria.
RickK
"Jimmy (Jimbo) Wales" jwales@wikia.com wrote:
Fred Bauder wrote: The language now reads, "When a Wikipedia
administrator discovers an
instance where a block was made without
appropriate reference to the
Wikipedia:Blocking policy, they may reverse the
block but should post a note
on the offending Wikipedia administrators talk
page explaining why the block
was reversed."
Rick wrote:
Still unacceptable. The Arbcom is still making
policy which has not been agreed to by the wikipedia as a whole.
RickK
What do you see as being a policy change in this?
Administrators have always been able to reverse a block which was made without appropriate reference to the Blocking policy, because admins have always been able to reverse blocks for any reason at all.
If anything, Rick, I should think you would strongly support this language, because it *hints* (but doesn't say) that if a proper reason *is* given, then admins *may not* reverse a block. That is a policy that I suspect you would support, but it would be policy-making by the committee if they literally said it.
--Jimbo
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