Daniel Ehrenberg wrote:
The system right now may have been good in your opinion, but it was developed without input or notice of many wikipedians.
That's simply not true.
Maybe some had little input; maybe it was developed a year or two ago when many of us hadn't joined wikipedia. But either way, some wikipedians oppose the system, so it must be reconsidered
Well, everything can be reconsidered, that's for sure. But it simply isn't fair to accuse our process of failing to be sufficiently public when the real 'problem' is that we didn't wait around for everyone to show up before moving forward. :-)
We are forced to write the deletion notice. Basically, you are forcing us, and the other wikipedians, to use deletion notices.
No, I'm not. I don't even know what you mean by that. That isn't policy, and to my knowledge, it has never been policy.
On 16:13, 15 Jul 2003, Bdesham raised this issue first, using the language of "please place a notice" -- notice it was never stated as a requirement. That notice survived intact until just recently, when someone else clarified it by pointing out that not everyone agrees and that it's optional.
I fail to see how this amounts to anyone forcing anyone to do anything.
--Jimbo