on 4/23/07 10:10 PM, Todd Allen at toddmallen@gmail.com wrote:
But is there any way we can get back around to the original purpose here, which was to discuss the high burnout rate and ways to slow it down?
On 4/23/07, Marc Riddell michaeldavid86@comcast.net wrote:
Todd,
I mean this in the most positive of ways: To honestly and effectively discuss accomplishing what you are talking about, is going to require a shift of thinking and focus for some - from the maintenance and well-being of the encyclopedia to the same of that of its people. When the product is the only thing that really matters to a company, then the persons who produce that product are going to suffer - and it remains a terrible place to work.
Marc Riddell
on 4/23/07 11:37 PM, Todd Allen at toddmallen@gmail.com wrote:
I'm with you there. But the discussion's got to start somewhere.
Todd,
The problem of Admin burnout has grown to the point where an ongoing, general discussion would be inadequate to arrive at a workable solution. Is there any really serious question whether the problem does, indeed, exist? I don't think so. What is needed is the formation of an organized group (a study group if you will) to examine the problem, and to come back with practical solutions. I know, anytime there is a suggestion of forming a "group" within the WP Community, it is usually followed by a hue and cry of "this is exclusionist thinking", blah, blah, blah. This is too serious a problem for that kind of reaction. It's time to put away the paranoia this kind of proposal incites, and see and deal with this problem with some compassion, maturity and professionalism.
Wikipedia started as a village, grew into a town, and is now a major city. At the core of each one of these is the people. At times we all need encouragement, nurturing and support, and providing that to each other is what community is all about.
My thoughts,
Marc