On 10/7/07, John Lee johnleemk@gmail.com wrote:
On 10/8/07, Moe Epsilon moe_epsilon@yahoo.com wrote:
Honestly, I think the only real way to avoid these templates and still get the message across that there is something wrong, is to repurpose the templates so that the message is displayed on the talk page, that way editors still know to fix what needs fixing and the article, to the reader-population, won't be bothered by the overly annoying use of the boxes. Repurposing the templates is something I would support for the majority of the templates.
Honestly, why do we need a big template on the front of an article anyways? Doesn't discussion about how the article should improve in quality and maintain a more neutral point of view take place on the talk page to begin with? Plastering these articles with obsessive templates like {{current}}, {{npov}}, {{wikify}}, etc. are just useless all around for any reader of the website to see.
Of those templates you mention, {{current}} is explicitly meant for readers. {{NPOV}} is applicable to both readers and editors; {{wikify}} is applicable for editors.
There are arguments for maintaining the present system - it makes it clear that we're aware the article is not up to mark, and may let people know that they too can edit the article. I wouldn't be opposed to sticking most templates elsewhere, however.
Johnleemk
Yes, talk page is the proper place for obvious editorial templates, like Wikify.
KP