On 4/9/07, Slim Virgin slimvirgin@gmail.com wrote:
On 4/8/07, Jeff Raymond jeff.raymond@internationalhouseofbacon.com wrote:
Slim Virgin wrote:
Along the lines of "John Smith is a British schoolteacher who came to public attention after being discovered on the floor naked during a geography class, having asked his pupils to draw a map of Europe on his genitals."
The point is that no news organization or encyclopedia would publish a biography of the geography teacher just because of that one incident.
Well, if a news organization isn't reporting it, we're not including it.
They might report the incident. They wouldn't rush off to write a biography of the person on that basis alone.
That seems to be a valid standard to work with in terms of biographies of living people, even if we go way too far with it already. We're more than your standard encyclopedia, and we cover what's possible to cover. If John Smith is in the news, he's notable and we should consider inclusion.
You seem to be saying we should have a biography on every single person who has ever been in the news.
We're currently asking the question "Why shouldn't Wikipedia publish biographies on everyone for whom reliable sources can be found?" but I think we should turn that on its head and ask "Why *should* we, given that no else does?"
Because we're better than everyone else, and we're better than to cow to the demands of our subjects.
Well, another way of looking at it is that it's because we're worse than everyone else, and that we don't listen to our subjects' reasonable requests.
Affecting the coverage of an encyclopedia by requesting material to be deleted. is not reasonable. Fixing errors and protecting articles that prove to be continuing problems is reasonable. Deletion is similar to sweeping the problems under the rug or into your neighbours garden. We should address the problems instead of deleting them entirely or ignoring their existence.
Mgm