From: Steve Summit scs@eskimo.com Reply-To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org To: wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] GNAA Deleted! Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 16:04:15 -0500
TD wrote:
I applaud the culture shift that has taken place on Wikipedia that has allowed [[Gay Nigger Association of America]] to be deleted
And at the risk of sounding contentious, I must deplore it. It was the fifth or sixth deletion attempt that got me involved in Wikipedia in the first place. As I wrote in my very first contribution as a registered user, during the July 2005 deletion nomination,
...true story: this morning I was idly curious about GNAA, and was pleased to discover the Wikipedia article, so that I didn't have to favor GNAA's site with an undeserved hit. Trolls they certainly are, and sad it is that they've become "notable", but like it or not, they are, and the article is wholly appropriate.
And that's my opinion (or would be my opinion, if we still had the article) today.
What definition of "notable" are you using? The only definition of that word that matters at Wikipedia is: "A topic is notable if it has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial published works whose sources are independent of the subject itself." That's not true of GNAA, ergo they're not "notable", which simply means that it's impossible to write a properly verifiable article about them. We don't want to keep an unverfiable article around, no matter how much "consensus" may hoot and holler for it, so we delete it.
People who want to know about GNAA can still look them up at ED, which has no problem covering topics that we eschew.
Tony/GTBacchus
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