Again, they voted for the *concept* - an unfinished puzzle ball that gave the impression of many languages (Erik kept on saying that the concept-implementations can and and should be improved). A great many people simply *hated* the particular PM implementation of that concept, so it was improved by a professional designer. Still the same concept.
Many people (including me, and probably others) liked the "concept" of the unfinished puzzle-piece globe best in the original impimentation. No offence to Nohat, but just because a profesional did it doesn't necessarilly mean it's better.
http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2003-October/012323.html
(wikipedia-l post by Erik)
To be realistic, WikiEN-l really acts as the list for dealing with most issues. Many fewer people subscribe to Wikipedia-l than do WikiEN-l, and most of the issues we discuss here have to do with the project as a whole.
And uh, the announcements page, perhaps? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Announcements
Before that it was on the Main Page for a while but I moved it to the announcements page (one of the Nohat logos was already "live" at that point; see my complaint below).
Making announcements is what the announcements page is there for! Only very major announcements go on the Main Page. Improving the logo is not major enough to warrant that, IMO, but choosing the concept was.
Its also been on the Main Page of http://meta.wikipedia.org/ for some time.
Alas, it should have been also inputted into Wikimeida News.
http://meta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_News
If you are concerned about meta issues and policy then you should pay attention to Wikipedia-l (*cough* Erik's post) and meta (Main Page link). If you are concerned with general Wikipedia-related issues then read the Wikipedia Announcements page (*cough* link to meta page on this issue). Also, the word "Announcements" is bolded on RC whenever there is a new announcement.
No matter how many places it was announced, only around 1/6 of the people that voted for one of the main logos ended up voting for the revisions. Only the people that didn't like the logo voted on the revisions, mostly. And there was no way to vote for the original one, only the modifications! Very recently, that has changed, but very few people have voted for or against the original yet. And of those that actually did vote for or against the original logo, all of them voted for it.
I was also a bit surprised that Nohat's logo found its way on en.wikipedia so fast. I would have preferred to have the nohat logo go onto test.wikipeida.org first so that people could see how it looked on a MediaWiki installation (same for the original PM winning logo).
There wasn't enough time for people to vote on it. Someone is pushing this process too fast.
It is simply bad form and looks amateurish to keep changing the logo on a website with over 200,000 pages
- as if some type of 'logo variant war' were going
on. Even the most recent version of the nohat logo can and probably will be swapped for another, even better version.
-- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)
But the Nohat logo doesn't have any *words* on it! No matter how many minor modifications are made, it still won't have words. Wikipedia is about words, not just letters.
Why weren't these modifications in the original logo vote like other modifications were? LDan
PS. About a week and a half ago, I posted some complaints about the logo, but my comments were deleted by an anon. I'm really mad at him/her, but I can't do anything about it.
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