David Gerard wrote:
On 02/05/07, George Herbert george.herbert@gmail.com wrote:
Time out. If an uninvolved admin, who doesn't even KNOW about the cliques, feels that there were blocks warranted, maybe just maybe there's fire under all the smoke. Naconkantari's flameout seems to have mistargeted and caused some secondary problems. But ... maybe we DO need to block everyone legitimately involved for 24 hrs next time. Everyone outside all the cliques is treating clique insiders as too hot to handle. That's really bad. Everyone can make mistakes. If I go off on a tear and rampage around insulting people for a bit, and a random admin whacks me with a pay-attention block, I don't want friends from here or unblock-en-L unblocking me just because they know me.
I've emailed the arbcom pointing out precisely this, and that they in fact made the mess by completely fumbling it late last year: they expressly gave one editor a free pass for vicious personal attacks and expressly marked another editor as fair game henceforth. Ignoring it hasn't made it go away.
- d.
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Yes, and I speak as one of those blocked here.
I've no quarrel with Naconkantari blocking me, he was trying to make the best of a bad situation. It was foolhardy, but noble.
The problem was one editor was trolling. I removed the trolling. And that editor kept re-inserting it. We edit-warred over it. Normally, we'd simply have blocked the trolling user for a while - but he's got arbcom diplomatic immunity for that. If you block him, then you are under the microscope - and doubtless you will be guilty of some IRC conspiracy which will require your desysopping.
Naconkantari basically tried a wheeze: "If I can't block someone for trolling, maybe I can block him for edit warring". So he blocked the troll, me and two otherwise fairly uninvolved admins.
Someone called that 'equitable', yes it is - just as 'the sun shines on the righteous and the unrighteous alike'.
We live in interesting times:
Doc