On Oct 29, 2007 7:51 PM, Eugene van der Pijll eugene@vanderpijll.nl wrote:
Cite?
For wat?
"expect more prominent credit to be given": http://duncandavidson.com/archives/564
Since when does one example turn into 99%, many, and many?
In that particular case the writer was primarily upset that *no attribution at all was provided*... which was due to a momentary database glitch.
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But what people aren't perhaps aware of that we *do* credit text that was imported from outside Wikipedia: see for example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:1911
For the most part the 1911 notice was useful for explaining why the article used arcane English and had an occasional racial slur...
I didn't; likewise I'd prefer to credit images that we have pilfered from outsiders within the image captions.
And I prefer that we not create an easy way for people to advertise or self promote directly inside articles. I'd prefer that our encyclopedia articles not be littered with names, sometimes quite offensive or insulting names. I think it's utterly essential, legally and ethically, that we be as consistent as possible in our attribution of images, so crediting just images from third parties isn't really in option in my eyes. We seem to be at an impasse. :)
I am in favor of improving our 'one click away' attribution. I've advocated we create a credits tab multiple times. There is clearly a lot that we can do to improve attribution without shoving it inline. I would not be opposed to including it appended to the bottom of the pages, as mediawiki does for text authors on Wikis that haven't disabled that feature. Is there room to compromise here?
Steve Bennett stevagewp@gmail.com wrote:
In any case, there's no good reason we *don't* attribute authors better. And in fact we don't really comply with the GFDL from this point of view: there should be a clear list of the five main contributors.
The GFDL requires us to list *at least* the five main. We list all of them. We're a little mixed up with the section naming, but we in terms of actual substance we are in full complaince. (except when people paste in stuff without attributing it, of course)