Good luck pushing this through on-wiki. Awhile back, I saw a bunch of soft redirects up for deletion -- the articles had already been deleted, and someone had gone through and made soft redirects to the Wikia versions of the same content (fan material). As far as I know, the redirects were all deleted.
On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Philip Sandifer snowspinner@gmail.com wrote:
On Aug 29, 2008, at 7:47 AM, Wily D wrote:
Wikiquote, Wikisource, et al. are all, at least nominally, part of the same project.
Are they? I mean, is that true from a community perspective, or a WMF perspective?
Freeness is a wonderful attribute, but the honest truth is that it's of virtually zero value to our readers. By and large, they care about gratis, but not libre. Do we try to impose our ideology that way? Are external links for editors, rather than readers, who necessarily care more about freeness?
If we're going for a readerly argument, fine - do away with our cruft and notability guidelines. As it's also clear that we have readers who want coverage of things we're hesitant to provide.
If it's just internal navigation/external navigation, then it's just internal projects and external projects. If there's a different scheme, there should be a clear reason why a reader cares about free vs. unfree.
Again, though, internal to what? I would suggest that on [[Han Solo]] there is more overlap between the editors and readers of it and the Wookiepedia page on Han Solo than there is between the editors and readers of it and the Wikiquote page.
And yet one gets a colored box, and the other doesn't.
-Phil
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