Actually, nevermind the 16th century bit -- I see they're only asserting copyright on the last 50 years, which is more reasonable and doesn't do anything too terribly different than US law would allow.
But "fair use" of such text still applies, copyright or not, so with the exception of "Pacem in Terris" we're fine, in the US anyway.
FF
On 1/26/06, Fastfission fastfission@gmail.com wrote:
On the safe side, we should remove "Pacem in terris", as it would seem to be still eligible for copyright under US law (was issued 1963).
But anything which would be safe under US law we should keep. Just because the Vatican says they have the right to assert copyright on 16th century publications doesn't make it true, at least in US jurisdictions.
FF
On 1/26/06, Ray Saintonge saintonge@telus.net wrote:
Matt Brown wrote:
On 1/25/06, Katefan0 katefan0wiki@gmail.com wrote:
All right, so back to the topic at hand -- should we just delete every quote from every pope cited on Wikipedia and Wikisource?
On Wikipedia: absolutely not. We are not including whole texts within Wikipedia, we are selectively quoting from and referencing them, which is well within the normal scope of fair use.
We might want to consider the status of some things on Wikisource, however.
We really don't need to rush into any kind of panic. On English Wikisource the only affected text is John XXIII's "Pacem in terris". I'm sure that there are other copies of this around that have been published without permission. That may be enough to allow the doctrine of laches to apply; the facts would need to be researched. We may even be able to afford 15% of our cover price! We should at least give the issue a little time to develop.
Ec
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