Mark Wagner wrote:
On 9/18/06, Phil Sandifer Snowspinner@gmail.com wrote:
On Sep 18, 2006, at 10:00 AM, Carl Peterson wrote:
Perhaps the slogan should be "verified truth" or "verifiable truth." This puts them both on an equal plane and requires both.
I was thinking of something like "truth is ensured by verifiability," actually.
What is truth?
This bounced, message content type error. Re-sending as plain text. -- Truth is inherently *subjective, not objective.
*To a Muslim, Jesus was just another one of God's prophets and Mohammad was his final and greatest prophet; to a Christian Jesus was the only son of God, the redeemer; to an atheist he is a myth that people like to believe in. All of these views represent Truth to those who hold them. If we allow Truth, we open the door to fanatics edit warring madly. And it isn't just religion; it is everything from whether abortion is moral to which musical artist was the greatest in their field to which episode of SouthPark best highlights the political satire the series is known for.
Hence, "Verifiability, not truth". I can verify and state clearly, with sources, different views from different groups, being careful to not present the views in a biased fashion - per WP:NPOV#Undue weight - and not presume to know Truth, because all I can ever know is my very personal version of the Truth. The same is true for every human - you may agree on some things, but you do not agree on the Truth about everything with any one person.
One puppy's opinion.