Steve Block wrote:
Katefan0 wrote:
I think this is similar to what happens sometimes at pedophilia-related articles. For the most part, we as Wikipedians are drawn to edit articles in which we have a personal interest or stake. Naturally, then, those who disagree with age of consent laws will be drawn to articles such as [[NAMBLA]]. Not only do most other Wikipedians not feel drawn there, they in fact would rather purposefully avoid them because they make them feel icky. (I can certainly attest to that personally.) But in that manner, I have found that sometimes the "consensus" on these types of articles gets skewed. And this makes issues raised on the talk page very difficult to resolve.
I noted a while back at the pump that the article branch of requests for comment wasn't serving it's purpose anymore, and that it should get moved to the pump as [[Village pump (article)]]. Sadly, and a little ironically, I got no discussion at the pump, and I'm starting to wonder if the community is so big it is beginning to fracture. There needs to be a high profile way of grabbing editor attention and getting a reflective consensus on issues. I'm starting to agree with the idea of a parliament or maybe an article arbitration commitee. Any thoughts?
If I keep away from articles like [[NAMBLA]], being "icky" won't be my primary reason for doing so. Most of us have our own interests to use up our time, without putting on hip-waders to grovel through a shit pile of time wasters.
I don't think that parliaments or new committees will do anything to accomplish what you want. People who associate with such institutions tend to be POV pushers themselves; these may be more socially acceptable POVs, but POVs nevertheless.
My own experience is that at different times I have made both quick one-liners, and detailed reflective comments. The latter seldom receives replies at all. You don't get reflective comments by "grabbing" editor attention. Reflection is the antithesis of grabbed circumstances.
There are indeed problems associated with being so big. For most of us this is an unaccustomed problem. Is it too much of a cliché to say that we need to start thinking outside the box?
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