On 10/15/07, Thomas Dalton thomas.dalton@gmail.com wrote:
On 15/10/2007, David Goodman dgoodmanny@gmail.com wrote:
We already have a great many user complaints that admins are essentially invulnerable. This would greatly increase such dissatisfaction. We have whatever respect we do have, because any user can after all make a direct complaint. Making it impossible would increase the existing feeling of class antagonism.
You're absolutely right. The thing we have to decide is if it's worth it. We have to so something to fix ArbCom, and chances are, we're going to make somebody unhappy in the process. We need to balance how well ArbCom (or its replacement) works with how happy people are with it - we'll never fully achieve both.
I don't know that happiness matters. My favorite teacher drives me insane--hardly makes me happy at all until I get through one of his damn classes and realize I learned far more than I ever thought possible. I respect him. I don't know him at all, so I can't say whether I like him or not--but he's a superb teacher, and I also trust him to know how to teach me.
Isn't that more important that ArbCom earns or has the respect of the community? Than that they make the community happy? The latter seems to be the way to set them up for no community support. If their job is defined well, and they do it well, and they're able to do it well because the requirements for doing so are not so onerous, then they will, imo, wind up with the community's support for taking upon themselves a thankless job. But happiness? How could they provide that?
KP