Puppy wrote:
Fred Bauder wrote:
On Nov 25, 2006, at 7:28 AM, Alphax (Wikipedia email) wrote:
Jim Schuler wrote:
I find it sad that someone feels the need to have a separate mailing list for women. Gender bias is an issue that touches all of us and should be discussed openly by *all of us. *As KC noted, separate but equal is a farce: it is merely separate, not equal, for in the act of separation power is ceded to the majority, a majority that is often boorish and smug in its ignorance.
It is also sad that when some of the men here spoke out in defence of women, they were attacked for piling on (the offender had slinked off without so much as an apology)
Do you think I'm proud of what I said? Do you think I actually meant it? Do you think that continuing to attack me would have helped the situation? Do you think that there was any apology I could have give that wouldn't have been just brushed off as insincere?
Just say you are sorry and get it over with. Then sin no more. I think most of us are aware that there is an element of trolling involved in this thread, but there are also real problems which we need to deal with effectively.
Well put. I fear there is some conflation of the comment, the response (or lack thereof), and the overall situation.
The comments were inappropriate, and I'm sorry for making them. The response is sadly lacking, and I'm sorry for contributing to an atmosphere that discourages appropriate responses. The situation is a mess, and I'm sorry for having started it.