On 5/5/06, Cheney Shill halliburton_shill@yahoo.com wrote:
I agree about the 10 fringe vs. 2 authorities. But that has nothing to do with this scenario, in which the sources are of equal authority. In fact, the very fact that you turned a non-ambiguous scenario into an ambiguous scenario is evidence that the process itself is far too ambiguous. It's not just you; I have not gotten 1 straight answer on this. Are we not supposed to be judging and reporting on the facts as they are, not as we think they should be?~~~~Pro-Lick
"As they are" in this case is a socially defined fuction, inseperable from "as we think they should be".
It will always be semi-ambiguous. That's fine. We do our best. But since we are all "editors" in the end discussion and fudged compromises are what we will have to go with. Whether that is a disadvantage or not is up for debate, but it's clearly one of the inevitable aspects of an open knowledge-production system.
Of course, that our standards are defined by social activities does not make Wikipedia really any different from any other aspect of knowledge-production. But with Wikipedia that social process is very transparent and the "hand of the author" is very obvious.
In a scientific journal, for example, those social activities are still there, but the boundary for admission to the discussion is much higher, and the mechanisms of how they work are hidden away from sight (and tied up with a number of other variables as well). But in the end it is still a social activity which produces, certifies, or knocks down the "knowledge" itself. Since we at Wikipedia are not even making any claims of doing the research ourselves, pointing to "the facts as they are" as some sort of stabilizing mechanism seems even more problematic than it already would be in something like scientific activity, where the social structures which support "the facts" are far less obvious.
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