mdangers wrote:
Alphax (Wikipedia email) wrote:
Anthere wrote:
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The live feed service exist. Generally, it is a bad idea to let live-mirrors as they are a drain on our resources. For this reason, a service is provided against a certain fee, meant to at least cover the costs of feeding the live-mirror.
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Why is it so ? Well, it may be a mixture. Possibly Terry contacting few potential customers. Possibly blocked live mirrors not being informed of that solution (now, you know, so next time a blocked mirror complains, please tell it to contact us). Possibly a lack of reactivity to propose contracts. Or lack of understanding from the people in OTRS about what the live feed is...
Uh, yeah. Actually letting people know that it exists would be a good start...
I second that request. If the WMF actually is interested in selling this service, it would make sense to inform Terry (to my shame I must admit I do not even know who this is) of the existence of live mirror sites.
Hi
Terry is a person working for Bomis and Wikia. He gives a bit of time for live feed from time to time. Unfortunately, he does not participate to Wikipedia really, so is unlikely to know which mirrors could be contacted ...
As one of the people dealing with mirrors on de:, I would be happy to do so. Additionally, it might be a good idea to establish some official way to get live mirrors blocked. I tried to find someone to block those listed at [1] at #wikimedia-tech three times, but didn't succeed. Of course, I absolutely understand this is far from top priority for our server and software people, overworked and few as they are.
A few days ago, I drafted this answer http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAnthere&diff=326... (which was fixed by Brion, then heavily edited by Uninvited Company for proper english) to provide on OTRS. We rather frequently have emails sent from mirrors and complaining they have been blocked. This answer is now available on the board queue, but might be added to other queues as well if necessary.
There are three requirements for taking care of live mirrors 1) getting them blocked (this mostly concerns the english and german wikipedia for now I suppose) 2) contact them to explain why they are blocked and to propose a live feed 3) if they are interested, have some one trusted handle the transaction and make them sign a contractual agreement (note that the contractual agreement is available en english at least).
Brion should write in the next few days/weeks a page to explain the technical considerations of the live feed.
In case some editors on en.wikipedia and de.wikipedia could draft a page where it would be explained to blocked mirrors why they are blocked, and explain them what alternatives are available, it would be great.
Cheers
Anthere
I am also aware this issue may not be fully suitable for this list, but my mail to wikitech-l seems to be stuck in moderation and at least the thread seemed appropriate :-).
Cheers, de:mdangers
[1] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Mdangers/rot
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