Hm, well, if it's just your situation we are discussing - I'll have a go with my interpretation. I don't know if it's entirely accurate so feel free to correct me on any points. Your first ban was justified - you appear to admit so yourself ("history of asshattery", "giant shitstorm", etc). Your second - the one where you got unblocked by swaying consensus using a sockpuppet, right? So the blocked sockpuppeteer gets reblocked for using a sockpuppet - I'm not sure what's wrong there. If ArbCom isn't working for you, talk to an admin you trust. Tell them exactly why you've changed, why you won't use socks anymore, why you won't be an asshat. See if they like what you have to say for yourself, and perhaps they'll appeal to ArbCom themselves. A banned user (Qst) recently got himself unbanned this way, and he's doing alright. But trying to get our sympathy by telling us to assume good faith - nah. It's not assume the position, or assume blind faith. AGF is an abstract and ill-defined concept. Give me a good reason, based on, say, an outline of goals you want to achieve if you are unbanned, and I would certainly support unblocking you. This is me judging your case individually, as you ask. I wouldn't support unbanning Amorrow if he planned to write an FA. I don't think you're all bad - or even bad, really. Give us a good reason.
On 16/11/2007, Flameviper Velifang theflameysnake@yahoo.com wrote:
I enjoy how, despite the fact that I presented my message as referring to my situation, people continue to refer to "banned users" instead of "Flameviper/PM/Banned User/etc".
Sometimes you have to put aside the umbrella and deal with individual cases.
Every banned user isn't the same, nor do they have the same intent, the same motives, or personality. Just because BadGuy1331 is banned for DDoSing Wikimedia, doesn't make me equally bad because we belong to the group of Banned Users. But it's constantly treated as such.
I laugh at JzG's "appeal to ArbCom" post. I *tried* to appeal to ArbCom when I was banned, and they
- ignored my request
and 2) reset my ban counter.
There's no arbcom mailing list. It's near-impossible to reach ArbCom when you're an editor in good standing, much less when you're a banned criminal that everyone hates.
And again, I'm anticipating many replies of "troll" and the like. I invite you to go ahead, Senator McCarthy. Instead of "trolls" and "trolling", why don't we just say "annoyance" and "annoying"? It's the same thing; a degrading insult that can be thrown around by anyone in power without consequence (because branding someone as a troll magically turns them into one, somehow).
I would go on IRC today to talk about things, but OH SHI- I'm banned on IRC because they think I'm a troll, based not on anything I've done on IRC, but based mainly on my Wikipedia ban. And I would also like to mention the fact that I get constant shit on every IRC channel and forum I've ever entered due to someone screaming that I'm a troll and deserve to be banned forever, thus repeating the cycle everywhere. Huzzah, Wikipedia. Huzzah.
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