Simon Walker wrote:
Sorry, but I don't see any problem with this. Apologies for sounding a bit extreme Jonathan, but are you suggesting that "once an admin, always an admin?", or perhaps "de-sysoping means the admin in question has been too controversial, and is being forced to step down?" However, I do agree that we actually should get on helping build the encyclopedia instead of arguing about rights and such things.
Stwalkerster
On 28/12/2007, Jonathan (Wikipedia) jonathan.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
Nathan wrote:
I don't know, whats worrying? You seem to think the drama seekers are a problem - I don't know who the drama seekers are, but is it possible some of them are the ones who are leaving? Perhaps the sudden increase (as you see it) in desysoppings will help to counteract the drama that you dislike.
On Dec 27, 2007 7:07 PM, Jonathan (Wikipedia) jonathan.wiki@gmail.com
wrote:
AGK wrote:
Similarly, nothing new. Wikipedia's expanding, so is the number of desysoppings. We've got better things to worry about, surely. AGK
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On 27/12/2007, Rjd0060 - rjd0060.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
Well said. And guess what: Next year, there will probably be more
than
there were this year, and so on. Nothing alarming here, really.
On Dec 27, 2007 3:55 PM, Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
> On 12/27/07, Jonathan (Wikipedia) jonathan.wiki@gmail.com wrote: > > > >> Majorly wrote: >> >> >> >>> How many of those were because of bad admins though? Sometimes, an >>> >>> >>> > admin > > > >>> needs a break from seeing extra buttons they no longer want to be >>> >>> >>> >> dealing >> >> >> >>> with, so will request to be desysopped. I don't see that as a >>> >>> >>> problem.
>>> Bad admins of course are a problem, and so are compromised >>>
accounts.
>>> >> Less of >> >> >> >>> that next year of course, but admins can resign whenever they wish >>>
>>> > it > > > >>> isn't a problem at all. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> Yes, but this is more than we've ever had. I know that Wikipedia >>
has
>> some admins retire, but we had more than last year. I'm not trying >>
to
>> alarm everyone, but this is scaring me just a bit. I've seen a few >> retirements because of a problem with another editor. THAT is what >>
I'm
>> saying we need to get our act together about. >> >> ~Jonathan >> >> >> > Of course there were more than ever before. There are more admins >
than
> ever > before. There are more articles than ever before. There were more > > > edits
> than ever before. One must have a sense of proportion here. What * > percentage* of admins was desysopped year over year, by reason for > desysopping? That would give us a reasonable comparison point, raw > numbers > are meaningless. > > _______________________________________________ > > > >> WikiEN-l mailing list >> WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: >> http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l >> >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > WikiEN-l mailing list > WikiEN-l@lists.wikimedia.org > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: > http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l > > >
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Yes, I understand that Wikipedia gets more admins with time. But this year had a massive jump in desysops. THAT'S why I'm getting worried.
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Nathan, you have a good point. Most of the drama-making admins have already retired, thus, it might help.
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Stwalkerster, you're right. I guess end of discussion. ~Jonathan