On Sun, 2004-03-14 at 04:56, Anthere wrote:
But Erik, you are trying to have edit wars solution be based uniquely on 2 or 3 wik-like people, while there are many other very regular and sometimes very respected contributors, who actually sometimes get into edit war and reversion war themselves in the heat of the moment.
For Wik-like people, yes, a temporary ban may be a relief. Now, for regular editors, I think it is a bad solution.
Suggestion : What about a different policy depending on whether editors are listed as "frequently involved in wars" people ?
For those "problematic users", for example, though not mandatory, any 3 reverts session could grant either softban or page protection or slow-editing for 24 hours. Without the sysop doing the ban or the protection or the slow edit having to justify himself or to argue he did not commit sysop abuse.
However, none of these three actions would be mandatory. People could still consider applying one or another, depending on the person.
Now, for people not listed as "problematic", only page protection could be applied, eventually, after a certain number of reverts.
As for listing people problematic, I can just suggest a poll. If over 75% wikipedians agree a person is problematic, well, he may undergo harder punishement than others.
This will allow people like Wik to be blocked after 3 reverts. So, satisfy you and others. This will allow regular users only to see only article protection occuring for 3 reverts in most cases, so might satisfy all those against the ban for 3 revert rule.
Sorry Anthere, but you are wrong. The majority of those who oppose the three reverts policy are just those problematic users, so they probably would not be satisfied with a policy that would still have their warring thwarted.
This should satisfy both those willing to stop editors like Wik, and those saying he is part of the project. This will sent him the signal "better behavior" -> "lighter punishment"
This would also create a new class of users: "Explicitly Untrusted Users". Not a good idea IMHO. Might just drive users like lir to just regress into multiple personality mode.
Jussi-Ville Heiskanen.