I've begun making a conscious effort to stop using "POV" and instead use the word bias, which is really more appropriate as a descriptor for bad behavior vis a vis this policy.
-k
On 1/25/06, Haukur Þorgeirsson haukurth@hi.is wrote:
I, too, am sick and tired of the acronym "POV" thrown around as an insult. I doubt we can gather enough steam to deprecate the [[WP:NPOV]] shortcut but my suggestion for an alternative would be [[WP:NEUTRAL]].
Regards, Haukur
Just some blue sky thinking:
Our neutral point of view policy has aroused a fair bit of discussion
at
[[WP:NPOV]] recently, and this has got me thinking:
We've all seen arguments where people keep arguing that this is "POV"
or
someone is being "POV" where in normal English we'd just call something an "opinion" and note that someone has an opinion on something. Indeed, the made-up
term
POV is bandied around usually to mean something along the lines of - you
are
wrong, I am right, and because it is a NPOV issue, the point is
non-negotiable,
which isn't a very good place to start from if the issue is to be resolved. Plus
far
too many people read NPOV as equating to "no point of view" as opposed to the real requirement, which is to write from a neutral viewpoint.
My blue sky thinking (which I don't claim to be a panacea, just an interesting thought) is why don't we rename the policy page [[Wikipedia:Neutral viewpoint]] and make the shortcut link to it [[WP:NEUVIEW]] (or [[WP:NEUTVIEW]]). It goes without saying that the underlying concept behind the policy would remain completely unchanged - just the name of the page would change - plus it would enhance people's perceptions that it is about requiring a neutral viewpoint, rather than no viewpoint, or neutrality more generally: it would help define the
policy
in positive terms and (and perhaps I'm going too far here:) ) may help stop content disputes escalating in scale and viciousness.
Kind regards
Jon (jguk)
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