No, I think you are wrong about this - I dont think that excessively overused and large templates which do nothing but say "see the talk page for discussion" do anything useful. If the concern is that the editortags are too small to get noticed or provide any "warning" we can make them bright red and orange - with sprinkles on top. Theres no need for me - an experienced editor to see the verbose version, and claiming that newbies need to see them as warnings is probably lacking of WP:AGF and redundant with our general disclaimer anyway. Everyone knows that the site is perpetually under construction, and everyone knows that controversial articles are going to be disputed. Why keep CAUTION tape and the traffic cones in the way? To point people to our proverbial 'overpaid state highway construction workers?' (i.e. one guy in the hole and eight standing around watching).
SV The guy in the hole --- Jack Lynch jack.i.lynch@gmail.com wrote:
MGM is right, and if nothing else, dispute tags will let certain journalists know that the article they are making fun of isn't exactly our best work.
I, as a reader, was perfectly happy reading a disputed article, and having a knowing chuckle when I found foolish content, rather than the outrage I felt when finding it on an undisputed page. It was one of those untagged outrages that inspired me to edit in the first place ;)
Jack (Sam Spade)
On 11/11/05, MacGyverMagic/Mgm macgyvermagic@gmail.com wrote:
Tags that warn an article is disputed or subject
to controversy need
to be on the article page to inform the casual
passerby who doesn't
think of checking the talk page. And having
certain tags on the
article itself will also make the fact they need
to be improved more
visible and may speed that process up.
Shouldn't we be trying to fix the articles to get
rid of these tags
entirely. If we do, there'd be no discussion on
where to put them.
--Mgm
On 11/10/05, steve v vertigosteve@yahoo.com
wrote:
This is a summary of the criticism of the WP:ET
idea's
at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Editor_tags
# Template messages should be bigger! - ## Too small! ## Readers should read (and understand) them,
not just
editors ### Not appropriate for NPOV / POV tags (OK for others) ### Appears to "cover up" any disputes ### Suggests the talk page is in dispute as
opposed to
the article itself. ### "They should be like a big honking stopsign
to the
reader" ### "they warn readers and tell them to not read
the
article." #### "If they do, then they'll get false
information."
# "Messes up categorizations" # I dont like it!
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