Sam Korn wrote:
On 11/21/05, Tony Sidaway f.crdfa@gmail.com wrote:
Is research more difficult to perform during those hours for some reason? Is Google less accessible, perhaps, or do your arms tire and becom unable to lift books from the shelf and open them? Assuming that both of those circumstances pertain, perhaps you should refrain from performing RC patrol at that time of day. Especially if it may lead to your deletion of articles without bothering to perform any research.
If pages filling the speedy criteria during those hours, I will not be doing research to rescue them. At other times, the amount of vandalism is far lower, so there's more time to research. My method is fully within policy.
-- Sam
This debate strikes me as being one, at its core, about eventualism versus immediatism. Tony is arguing that the encyclopedia will clean itself up eventually, and that if in doubt, it's better to leave possible CSDs alone. Sam and geni are arguing from an immediatist perspective, that if it can't be cleaned up immediately and is of no encyclopedic value *as it is now*, then it's best junked. Sam is right in that his approach is compliant with existing policy, as he is deleting articles of no encyclopedic value. Tony is also justified in saying that it may be better to clean up the article and replace the unencyclopedic material instead of outright deleting.
I'd say it depends on how much time you have, and what you prioritise: an enyclopedia with minimal chance of someone hitting the random page button and receiving an article consisting of "dis d00d is kewl", or an encyclopedia where the article says "{{cleanup}} dis dood is kewl". Both types of people, IMO, should just go ahead and doing what they feel is right, as this seems to be a matter of pure personal preference. In the end, things will work out: people will come along and recreate a proper version of the article if it's deleted, and if the article was pure junk, then not much has been lost.
As Dpbsmith has often said on VfD/AFD, in the long run, it matters little whether these articles are kept or deleted. Nobody should lose too much sleep, if any, over this issue.
John Lee ([[User:Johnleemk]])