geni wrote:
On 11/12/06, Dan Collins en.wp.st47@gmail.com wrote:
pfft. we need a7, that's how we get rid of the myspace teens and the wanna-be-a-big-businesses. Do you have an example of an article that was "unfairly" deleted? If it's used improperly, remove the tag. Either way, the admin won't delete it if it isn't really nn.
Oh they might. Problem is that we have no other deletion method that could cope if we removed A7
Speedy A1
Very short articles providing little or no context (e.g., "He is a funny man that has created Factory and the Hacienda. And, by the way, his wife is great."). Limited content is not in itself a reason to delete if there is enough context for the article to qualify as a valid stub.
Now I'd argue that any article which doesn't explain why someone is significant fails to provide context. So writing "Blah are a garage band who will release their first album next year." Provides no context, and even if it is hugely puffed out to detail how they met and where they all went to school, it still fails to provide context. Now an article that provides context is "Blah are a garage band who will release their first album next year. The album will be produced by Steve Albini." There you've got a smidge of why they might be significant. Steve Albini has a Wikipedia article, so it may be debated that having an album produced by him may be significant enough.
Now this stuff is what A7 is also supposed to stop, but in the last few days, for example, I removed a speedy on a stub which noted the actress appears in Hollyoaks, a popular soap. It was speedied because apparently that doesn't assert notability. Now my rule of thumb is, if the article claims something that hasn't or couldn't have happened to an average person, namely me, and checks out, then I won't delete it under A7. Because I could have been in a band, I could have been an actor, but I haven't appeared in a poular soap, and I haven't had an album produced by Steve Albini.
A7 seems far too wide in it's subjectivity. When it was proposed it contained contextualising text, something along the lines of asserting that you are a baker or a butcher may be true, but it doesn't assert any importance. The article should assert why you are an important baker or butcher. This text was removed within the first few days of adoption as unnecessary, but I think it needs to be added back in to better contextualise what is supposed to be deleted here.