How about "Admins judge what to do with articles, based on a rough threshold of 2/3 and their own common sense." Then we can have a page called "Requests for Undeletion" to deal with things where admins made dodgy or bad calls.
If VfD is becoming unwieldy, why not split it into some topical pages. VfD-Popular Culture, VfD-Sciences, VfD-Humanities, VfD-Politics, etc. That would lighten the load on the single page.
But for the most part, the pendulum has swung back to the deletionists favor at the moment. I'm sure the trend will reverse shortly and I'll start getting frustrated at how people vote to keep things that are obviously deletable. Fear not, inclusionists.
-Snowspinner On Oct 24, 2004, at 3:43 PM, Guanaco wrote:
phil hunt wrote:
Perhaps the VFD rules could be changed to make deletion harder unless there is a real consensus. One formula might be:
delete if deletion_votes > 10 + 3 * keep_votes
That's too open for abuse by sockpuppets, and it's unusual for 11 people to vote to delete a listing. The most blatant spam is usually skipped over unless it's speedily deleted.
Maybe this would work:
<pseudocode> # Ignore excessive sockpuppet votes if ( deletion_socks > deletion_votes / 4 ) { deletion_votes = deletion_votes + deletion_votes / 4 - deletion_socks deletion_socks = deletion_votes / 4 } if ( keep_socks > keep_votes / 4 ) { keep_votes = keep_votes + keep_votes / 4 - keep_socks keep_socks = keep_votes / 4 }
# Require a majority, even with sockpuppets. Note the code above that removes excessive sockpuppet votes from deletion_votes and keep_votes if ( ( deletion_votes > keep_votes ) # consensus test (requires 75% of the total plus 3 votes -- sockpuppets don't count) and ( deletion_votes + 3 * keep_socks > 3 * keep_votes + deletion_socks + 3 ) ) { delete } else { keep }
</pseudocode>
More tests would probably be necessary, but I think this proves the point that a simple formula cannot handle VfD, and it's a start if we're actually going to use a formula.
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