On Feb 18, 2007, at 11:43 PM, Ray Saintonge wrote:
Just because someone isn't going out of his way to make himself visible in the way that some admins do does not mean that he is doing nothing to keep Wikipedia ticking. Your attitude is very broadly disrespectful of a wide range of contributors.
Have you forgoten that this thread started with complaints about admin burnout. The general solution that was suggested was to loosen up the extreme restrictions on becoming a sysop. But those content with the present state of things argue loudly against it. You can't have it both ways. Stop complaining about being overworked, or do something about the problem.
How can my comment be disrespectful? And why you interpret my comment as "complaining"?
The present state of things, is that any editors can have as much involvement in Wikipedia affairs as any admin could. What is the difference between an editor that has contributed 20,000 edits in two years and that is not an admin, and one with the same level of involvement that is one? Absolutely *nothing*
Of course, there are perception such as yours. But these are perceptions, and not facts. These forced distinctions between admins and editors is a fallacy. Admins are also editors, and editors can do as much as an admin besides deleting an article and closing AfDs.
Rather than exacerbating the width of the perceived chasm between "admin" and "non-admin", we ought to be building bridges.
-- Jossi