I think there is a specific standard for the notability of fiction for good reason. I'm not sure that having been seen by millions of glazer over eyeballs is necessarily enough for something to be notable - it may be, but I would argue that there have been tons of episodes of tons of TV shows and in 5 years no one will remember 99 percent of them, let alone cite them for anything. Additionally, they present clear RS problems - how often do reliable sources publish a treatment of a Buffy the Vampire Slayer episode? I wouldn't go undeleting them unless you first get approval on policy changes. I'm sure the fan-types will support you, but the community in general seems to be leaning away from your position.
On Dec 20, 2007 7:43 PM, Bryan Derksen bryan.derksen@shaw.ca wrote:
joshua.zelinsky@yale.edu wrote:
Ok, I've asked at that page if there is any real consensus for the guideline. If you have an opinion, feel free to comment. I'm about to go on vacation now, and will leave therefore thankfully miss any ensuing drama.
I've chipped in too now, for folks who want a direct link it's at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Television_episodes#Is_there_any_actual_consensus_for_this_guideline_at_all.3F. I'm of two minds here whether I should start actually reverting and restoring some of the more obviously wrong-headed deletions that have already been done; on the one hand of course revert-warring is bad, but on the other hand I'm worried about the fait accompli gambit that appears to be in play here.
Really, this is a stupid overreach of notability-mongering. Any given random episode of a show like Scrubs has been seen by millions of people and is going to be available in DVD box-sets for years and years to come, that _alone_ puts it above 90% of the articles we have about books or wee little towns or dead congressmen or what have you. We've got articles on hundreds of asteroids that are known only by a few orbital parameters in a catalogue someplace and there's nary a complaint. I'm extremely annoyed.
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