On 11/10/2007, fredbaud@waterwiki.info fredbaud@waterwiki.info wrote:
Right, and that is where "the idiot" should have to look for it. It is inappropriate to trash our own users on our own site.
This is not seriously in dispute, as far as I can tell.
That is exactly what is in dispute.
No, what is in dispute as what can be *defined* as "trashing our users on our own site". No-one seriously discussing this supports making vicious personal attacks against people, and it is both dishonest and insulting to imply they do.
What people are trying to decide is
a) how we can best react when other people do it, or when other people talk about people doing it, or when other people find themselves inextricably linked with people doing it... and,
b) how far we stretch the definition of what it means to *make* such an attack; whether alluding to or linking to one made by a third party is considered making it oneself.
These are actually in dispute, and you don't get to redefine the terms of the debate so anyone who disagrees, or has the temerity to argue with a diktat, is trolling.