Snowspinner (Snowspinner@gmail.com) [050906 06:07]:
And it's not enough to say, "Oh, [[Gossamer Commons should have been kept." The point is that there shouldn't be endless deletion debates on articles where people wave guidelines around that are transparently crap. Deletionists should not be running rougshod over a substantial group of people who want to contribute on a topic. There should not be a webcomics fork born out of frustration about how unfriendly we are to people who want to contribute on webcomics. A fork born of a desire to have even more detailed coverage than is appropriate for Wikipedia, and that wants to supplement Wikipedia's coverage? Fine. Neat. That would be cool. But this isn't that. This is a fork. This is good people taking their ball and going home, because of the toxic culture on VfD. We blew this one.
Tch! And I remember you ranting on IRC about how rude the inclusionists were on VFD and how the deletionists would never be so obnoxious ...
Note, by the way, that the spurious deletion criteria for webcomics is a symptom of the spurious criterion of "notability". Which has repeatedly been rejected as policy.
I move:
1. VFD or AFD or whatever it's called be shut down entirely. No article deletion other than CSD, copyvios and similar. VFD is sufficiently damaging that *nothing at all* would be better than it existing in any present form. 2. A month to discuss new deletion mechanisms. 1 should get the keen deletionists very interested indeed. 3. A vote. Nothing passes with under 75% support.
- d.