G'day Peter A,
On 04/06/06, Stephen Bain stephen.bain@gmail.com wrote:
On 6/3/06, Resid Gulerdem resid_gulerdem@yahoo.com wrote:
I think one should not expect any action, in general, from the people who are well fed by the current structure which makes them feel superior, make any attempt towards a bit of change...
There must be an awfully large number of people who are content with the current structure, given that the general approval poll on your Wikiethics proposal failed 3 to 38 [1]. Polls are evil, of course, and not binding, but that level of rejection is fairly comprehensive, and came from all sectors of the community. I would imagine that "OURS", if it were ever formulated into a proposal, would receive a similar amount of opposition for similar reasons.
There are dozens of similar proposals put up every year. If any of them actually received support from the community, they would be successful. Admins are a miniscule 0.06% of registered users - even if we always voted as a bloc, there is no way we could overrule a true community movement.
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Wikiethics/Archive/Approval_Poll...
What if the admins all voted one way and then dismissed the result because supposedly it was non-consensus? (as in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:May_Userbox_policy_poll )
Well ...
There were at least two admins who approved of the proposed policy (Grue and Fred Bauder). So "What if the admins all voted one way" is untrue.
The result wasn't dismissed by admins. The poll simply didn't say the things that certain proponents like to believe it said. Compare with the history of other policy created By Popular Demand, such as 3RR. So "then dismissed the result" is untrue.
Neither side of the poll achieved consensus. Please consult your favourite dictionary for evidence as to why "because supposedly it was non-consensus" is untrue.
In short, there is not a single thing in your email that's actually true. You will need to hold yourself to a higher standard of research in future, so that you don't look either clueless or disingenuous.