I don't understand how it would defeat the purpose of subcats. My goal is to be able to retrieve lists of persons with like characteristics. Unless a person is included in a subcategory, they will not be included in that list. A person who dies from lung cancer, also belongs in the larger list of persons who died from cancer.
Marc
From: "The Cunctator" cunctator@gmail.com Reply-To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:24:45 -0500 To: "English Wikipedia" wikien-l@wikipedia.org Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Hello
On 12/12/06, Marc Riddell michaeldavid86@comcast.net wrote:
Here are some examples, my main argument and a proposal:
When I began contributing to Wikipedia, there was a Category 3Suicides2. If a person1s article stated they committed suicide, the category, 3Suicides2 would be included. If this person had committed suicide by using a firearm, the Category, 3Suicides by firearm2 would be also be included. In this case the Category, 3Deaths by firearm2 would also be included. In this way, the researcher can call up, individually, all persons in the encyclopedia who had committed suicide. Then, if they chose, they could also call up separate lists of those who committed suicide by firearm, and a separate list of all persons who died by firearm. This was wonderful for the researcher.
Then, I began finding many of my edits being reverting by persons who stated that only one of these Categories should be included in an article; that both a main category and a subcategory should not be in the same article. More and more of these articles were being diluted by this argument.
I have been in constant conflict with some who state that it is not only redundant to enter a single Article into both Categories; it is actually against Wikipedia policy. At present, if I enter John Doe into the Suicides by firearm1 Category only, he does not appear in the Deaths by firearm1 Category list. Consequently, if I want to call up all persons in the encyclopedia who have died by firearm, I must call up all the subcategory lists and collate them myself.
Another example: Jane Doe dies from breast cancer. Category: 3Deaths from breast cancer2 is added to her Category box, but I do not include the Category: 3Cancer deaths2. Then, when I click on the Category: Deaths from breast cancer1, her name is included in this list. But, if I click on the Category: Cancer deaths1 she is not included.
What I am wanting by adding her name to both Categories is a separate list of ALL persons who died from breast cancer, and a separate list of ALL persons who died from cancer. What is the problem with including the same Article in both a Main Category and a Subcategory?
It pretty much defeats the purpose of having subcategories.
By putting an article into a subcategory, you are effectively putting it into the parent category.
Maybe we should figure out a way to make that more obvious. _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@Wikipedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l