On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Carcharoth carcharothwp@googlemail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Anthony wikimail@inbox.org wrote:
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dalton@gmail.com wrote:
Jimmy taking his birthdate as that which his mother tells him rather than that which is on his birth certificate doesn't sound like a lie to me. A lie is saying something that you know to be untrue, this is simply a disagreement regarding what is true.
Assuming his *latest* story is the truth (and it seems to be), the lies would be when he told the reporter that August 7 was incorrect, when he told Encyclopedia Britannica that August 7 was incorrect, when he told the reporter that Wikipedia got the date from Britannica, and when he referenced the reporters story on his blog saying "for the first time the world has a proper source".
It sounds to me more like he didn't know the truth himself, and his mother later told him what the source of the confusion was. No need to accuse anyone of lying, as far as I can see.
No, he made a comment similar to the one he made in 2010, in 2004, which he later had oversighted, to try to cover up his later lies.
--- "My actual birthday is August 7th, 1966. This is unverifiable information, I'm sorry to say, since my driver's license and passport say August 8. If we must revert on that basis, then I guess we must... Maybe I'll have to upload a signed note from my mom as documentary evidence; the only proof that I have is her sayso." ---
That's what he said September 18, 2004. So no, this wasn't an honest mistake (which still would be reason not to trust what he says). And it wasn't even just Wales being misleading, as he so often does. This was an intentional lie.
So I don't trust what he says about the first edit to Wikipedia. It may be true. It may not be true. We'll probably never know.