On 8/15/06, Mark Ryan ultrablue@gmail.com wrote: [snip]
Surely the opposite can also be said of a "keep" consensus AfD: most of the voters plainly want the article to continue to exist as an article, not as a redirect and not deleted.
I haven't looked at the articles in question, so perhaps I'm off the mark in this case... But if people aren't willing to put some skin in their participation then there isn't much cause for us to heed their view. If the article is in terrible need of cleanup and none of the people arguing to keep it are willing to do the *work*, then I don't see a problem with someone else coming by and cleaning it up by merging it. (And yes, sometimes the best merge adds nothing to the merge target)...
In any case, redirecting it isn't ignoring the AfD... we consider 'merge and redirect' to be equal to 'keep' in an AfD. Perhaps doing so is incorrect because we really should be discussing the existence of an article at that name, but that is what is done today.