Good observations, Christiano. As for me, I have said just about all that I can say about the Project's attitude toward its people. I do know this - after a professional lifetime working with talented, creative people - that the emotionally healthy ones do not react well to being treated as an afterthought. The final proof of all of this will be in the quality, not the quantity, of the work.
Marc
on 3/6/08 4:56 PM, Christiano Moreschi at moreschiwikiman@hotmail.co.uk wrote:
That's because, Marc, 1s and 0s matter more to Wikipedia than people do. Some scandal splits the community? Half of everyone leaves in despair? Doesn't matter, we can just draft in new populations - probably of higher quality than the current population, too.
Besides, I doubt whether there really was a time when the community ever did march unitedly behind the banner of one set of "ideals". It's obvious that, even from the start, our founders had different visions of what Wikipedia was
- and what Wikipedia should become. No point harking back to an imaginary
Golden Age.
CM
Odi profanum vulgus et arceo.
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 09:54:34 -0500 From: michaeldavid86@comcast.net To: wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] What is happening to the community
on 3/6/08 9:23 AM, Relata Refero at refero.relata@gmail.com wrote:
Why? We shouldn't care that much about the "community". Caring about such nebulous things as the "community" and its "ideals" is one of the reasons why the social-networking side of WP gets in the way of improving the encyclopaedia. I personally try never to use the word "community". "Project" is more correct. If you think about the difference between those words, you'll realise why your concerns are almost certainly irrelevant.
RR
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 5:30 AM, SlimVirgin slimvirgin@gmail.com wrote:
The question for good people on all sides is: what can we do now to help save and protect this community and its ideals?
Sarah
Sarah,
The above post by Relata Refero is a good example of what you are up against asking the questions you are asking. And, unfortunately, it's all too typical: People having a much more comfortable time dealing with 1s & 0s than with other people.
Marc Riddell
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